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Trump Georgia phone call: 12 strange things said in the conversation ex-president faces legal action over

US President Donald Trump speaks before awarding the Presidential Medal of Freedom to retired football coach Lou Holtz on December 3, 2020, in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, DC.
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It wasn't even a full week into the new year when former President Donald Trump was yet again in the headlines. Why is that you may ask? Trump was on the phone for a little over an hour with Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger (R-Ga.), with the pursuit to try and convince the top elections official to overturn the 2020 election results within the state.

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office's general counsel arduously dismissed Trump's assertions, noting that the president has relied on conspiracy theories as grounds for the truth.

This call was an interesting moment for the last days of Trump's presidency— the desire to persuade and convince an election official to discover more votes that would perhaps tip the result in his favor.

Due to The Washington Post's recent article that shed light on the matter for the first time, the full audio recording of the call is now available. I also read through the transcript of the call and was mesmerized, albeit confused at the confidence in the statements and questions Trump relayed.

On Wednesday, newly elected Fulton County Democratic prosecutor Fani Willis sent a letter that was part of a criminal investigation to many state officials including Mr. Raffensperger with the request to save documentation that has to do with Trump's call.

Below are the 12 lines from the conversation in no particular order that are worth seeing.

1)"We won very substantially in Georgia. You even see it by rally size, frankly. We'd be getting 25-30,000 people a rally, and the competition would get less than 100 people. And it never made sense."

It almost seems as if Trump believes that having tens of thousands of people at his rallies is more than enough to indicate a win, but hey, let's continue!

2) "We think that if you check the signatures -- a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County you'll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures of people who have been forged."

There is not one ounce of evidence to suggest this.

3) "Late in the morning, early in the morning, they went to the table with the black robe and the black shield, and they pulled out the votes. Those votes were put there a number of hours before — the table was put there — I think it was, Brad, you would know, it was probably eight hours or seven hours before, and then it was stuffed with votes."

The beginning sentence seems like what a narrator would say in a televised adaptation of a grim tale. Also, is he trying to shed light on early voting, which is perfectly legal?

4) "We think that if you check the signatures -- a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County you'll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures of people who have been forged."

There is nothing on the world wide web to prove this claim.

5) "And I know you would like to get to the bottom of it, although I saw you on television today and you said that you found nothing wrong. I mean, you know, and I didn't lose the state, Brad."

Well, I'm not sure if Trump telling someone that he saw them on TV is stranger than his staunch belief that he didn't lose Georgia in the election.

6) "As you know, every single state, we won every state."

Please refer to the Electoral College road map to confirm the inaccuracy please.

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7) "So dead people voted and I think the number is close to 5,000 people."

*Sighs*. This statement is also inaccurate.

8) "The bottom line is, when you add it all up and then you start adding, you know, 300,000 fake ballots."

I'm not sure how he is coming up with 300,000, but OK.

9) "I mean there's turmoil in Georgia and other places. You're not the only one, I mean, we have other states that I believe will be flipping to us very shortly."

Flipping what states exactly? It kind of reminds me of peer pressure.

10) "But in Detroit, we had, I think it was, 139% of the people voted. That's not too good."

According to the Detroit City Clerk's office, voter turnout for eligible voters was roughly 51%. It's less than the 139% Trump is talking about.

11) "Oh this isn't social media. This is Trump media. It's not social media. It's really not, it's not social media. I don't care about social media."

Really? I guess anything is real if you believe in it enough.

12) "And you are going to find that they are -- which is totally illegal, it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know what they did and you're not reporting it. That's a criminal, that's a criminal offense. And you can't let that happen. That's a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer."

Could this be a slight threat initiated on Trump's end against Raffensperger and his lawyer, Ryan Germany, because they are defending the allegedly corrupt election? Trump further insinuates that they could end up in some legal issues. How wonderful.

Updated: 02/10/21.

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Women founders continue to come up against common challenges and biases

Written by Kelly Devine, Division President UK & Ireland, Mastercard

Starting a business may have historically been perceived as a man’s game, but this couldn’t be further from reality. Research shows women are actually more likely than men to actively choose to start their own business – often motivated by the desire to be their own boss or to have a better work-life balance and spend more time with their family.

The recently published Mastercard Index of Women Entrepreneurship 2021 found that in the category of 'Aspiration Driven Entrepreneurship’ – capturing those who actively choose to start their own business – women in the UK surpass men: 60% vs 56%. And Mastercard research from February 2022 found 10% of female business owners started their business in the past two years compared to 6% of men – meaning women were 67% more likely to have started a business during the pandemic.

Yet, there are common challenges that women founders continue to come up against - not least the gender imbalance in the household and long-held biases which are still prevalent.

In the UK, women are almost three times more likely to be balancing care and home commitments than men, and this was exacerbated during the pandemic as the additional barriers of school closures and lockdowns meant that the care time of dependents rose significantly on a day-to-day level for women. In addition, women were less likely to have access to a home office, greatly impacting the work they were able to accomplish when working from home was the only option.

It's also widely known that female business owners are still more likely to struggle to access funding for their business ideas. According to Dealroom, all-women founding teams received just 1.4% of the €23.7bn invested into UK start-ups in 2021, while all-male leadership teams have taken almost 90% of the available capital.

Without financial support, and when juggling significant time pressures both at home and at work, how can women grow their companies and #BreaktheBias (as this year’s International Women’s Day termed it)? What tools or support can save them time and money, and give them the headspace they need to focus on building their business?

With female owned businesses collectively estimating revenue growth of £120 billion over the next five years, solving this problem is bigger than supporting women – it’s about supporting the national economy.

Using tech to level the playing field

There are clearly societal issues at play that need to be resolved. But when we look at the rise in technology businesses during the pandemic, we can plainly see an alternative source of support critical for business growth: digital tools.

A third of female business owners say new technologies will be crucial to the success of their business in the future and one in five say it is the most important thing for business growth.

With new technology comes new ways to pay, create, and work. And yet there are barriers that prevent business owners accessing this technology. Women are significantly more likely to say they want to use more digital tools but don’t know what is best for their business and also more concerned about the security of digital tools.

When technology is adopted by businesses – whether using online accounting solutions or messenger services for communicating with staff – it saves them time, allows them to maintain and grow their customer base, and ultimately increases cost savings and profit.

By drastically improving the training and support that is available to women-owned business to access and utilise technology we will allow these businesses to grow and succeed. And we know there is demand for it.

Research done by the IFC and Dalberg shows that female entrepreneurs are more likely to invest time and money in business development. This includes product development, customer base expansion, and digital tools and training and there are plenty of services available offering this type of support – many of them for free.

One such programme is Strive UK – an initiative of the Mastercard Center for Inclusive Growth – which aims to reach 650,000 micro and small business owners across the UK and empower them with the tools they need to thrive in the digital economy through free guidance, helpful tools and one-to-one mentoring.

Working together with small business experts – Enterprise Nation, Be the Business and Digital Boost – we hope to ensure hundreds of thousands of UK female business owners have the tools they need to succeed and reach their ambitious goals. Because this ambition remains strong in the UK, with female business owners largely optimistic about the future despite the multitude of challenges they are facing. Four in ten say they will grow their business in the next five years – compared to only a third of male business owners – and they’re also 35% less likely than men to say they plan to downsize or close the business.

But if we do not empower female entrepreneurs to access the tools and technology they need to grow, there is a risk this optimism could be misplaced. Support programmes that provide business owners with guidance and mentorship can help ensure this isn’t the case, allowing female entrepreneurs to not only survive but thrive in the months and years ahead.