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The problem with Olivia Jade's 'Red Table Talk' interview

Olivia Jade attends the Dolce & Gabbana Light Blue Italian Zest Launch Event at the NoMad Hotel Los Angeles on May 17, 2018 in Los Angeles, California.
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Since the debut a few days ago, I can admit that I was holding off on watching Olivia Jade's interview on Jada Pinkett Smith's showRed Table Talkdue to my own biases and because in that particular moment, I wasn't all that interested. But with further contemplation and the comfortable atmosphere of Red Table Talk, I figured, why not give it a shot.

For reference, here is some background on the controversy surrounding Olivia Jade. In the spring of 2019, when the college admissions scandals were rapidly uncovered, one of the high-profile people involved in the case happened to be Full House star Lori Loughlin and her husband fashion designer Mossimo Giannuli. They were accused of paying half a million dollars to get their daughters into the University of Southern California by pretending to be a part of the school's row team. After pleading guilty earlier this year, Loughlin was sentenced to two months in prison, and Giannuli five months.

As both are currently serving their sentences, this apparently was the perfect time for Olivia Jade to break her silence about the situation. Let's just say I didn't skip through the video.

Before Olivia came to the table, the episode opened up with a discussion between Jada, her mom, Adrienne Banfield-Norris (also known as Gammy), and her daughter, Willow. Banfield-Norris didn't hold back from sharing her opinions about Olivia, expressing that she was not keen on her coming onto the show, saying, "I found it really ironic that she chose three Black women to reach out to for her redemption story." She also argued that Olivia would "recover whether or not she's sitting at this table or not," alluding to her privilege as a young white woman.

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Jada understood that she would probably get flack for the interview, but she expressed her desire to give everyone a fair chance to say their peace.

When I saw this discussion, I couldn't help but think about the Black people who don't necessarily have a platform to explain themselves.

During the actual interview, Olivia did seem to come to terms with her privilege as well as acknowledging that she doesn't expect sympathy from anyone from her actions. Banfield-Norris didn't hold back from giving her a piece of her mind, saying "it's very difficult for me to feel compassionate about you."

Although the look on her face made it seem like she's never been spoken to like that, she took all the criticism without defense, saying, "I didn't come on here to win people over," and that all she wants to do is apologize for what was wrong.

Sounds pretty fair so far.

Even though she didn't dive into all of the specifics (I wanted all the juicy details!), Olivia also revealed that she didn't know everything that was happening during the application process to USC and that she believed that her parents were merely making a donation during the application process.

She also brought up the fact that some of the things that were made public weren't written by her.

When the scandal initially became public, she also admitted that she didn't really understand what was happening. She was asked if she was angry with her parents about it, and she responded with, "to be honest, I was angry because I didn't have a good understanding of what happened." It's also worth noting that she never went back to USC because of the embarrassment.

Back to the subject of parents, Olivia said that she hadn't spoken to either of them (she mentioned something about a quarantine period in the prison), and there's no in-person visiting due to COVID. In the meantime, she's waiting to hear from them whenever they're able to make a call.

Moreover, and without giving too much credit, Olivia, time and time again, expressed her apologies and the embarrassment of everything that went down. She even went on to discuss her silence in the aftermath of the scandal, saying that a lot of it had to do with legal issues.

She's also insisted that she's "not this bratty girl that doesn't want to change anything," even mentioning some of the volunteer endeavors she's been doing. So it looks like she's willing to learn.

Some people who come from a place of privilege don't always take accountability for their actions nor see why certain things can be an issue, especially when it is racially charged. When they do take accountability, it is a testament to growth.

Hopefully, strides towards people becoming aware of the world outside of themselves will continue to happen, even if it's prolonged.

Check out the Olivia Jade interview on Red Table Talk via Facebook Watch.

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Women founders continue to come up against common challenges and biases

Written by Kelly Devine, Division President UK & Ireland, Mastercard

Starting a business may have historically been perceived as a man’s game, but this couldn’t be further from reality. Research shows women are actually more likely than men to actively choose to start their own business – often motivated by the desire to be their own boss or to have a better work-life balance and spend more time with their family.

The recently published Mastercard Index of Women Entrepreneurship 2021 found that in the category of 'Aspiration Driven Entrepreneurship’ – capturing those who actively choose to start their own business – women in the UK surpass men: 60% vs 56%. And Mastercard research from February 2022 found 10% of female business owners started their business in the past two years compared to 6% of men – meaning women were 67% more likely to have started a business during the pandemic.

Yet, there are common challenges that women founders continue to come up against - not least the gender imbalance in the household and long-held biases which are still prevalent.

In the UK, women are almost three times more likely to be balancing care and home commitments than men, and this was exacerbated during the pandemic as the additional barriers of school closures and lockdowns meant that the care time of dependents rose significantly on a day-to-day level for women. In addition, women were less likely to have access to a home office, greatly impacting the work they were able to accomplish when working from home was the only option.

It's also widely known that female business owners are still more likely to struggle to access funding for their business ideas. According to Dealroom, all-women founding teams received just 1.4% of the €23.7bn invested into UK start-ups in 2021, while all-male leadership teams have taken almost 90% of the available capital.

Without financial support, and when juggling significant time pressures both at home and at work, how can women grow their companies and #BreaktheBias (as this year’s International Women’s Day termed it)? What tools or support can save them time and money, and give them the headspace they need to focus on building their business?

With female owned businesses collectively estimating revenue growth of £120 billion over the next five years, solving this problem is bigger than supporting women – it’s about supporting the national economy.

Using tech to level the playing field

There are clearly societal issues at play that need to be resolved. But when we look at the rise in technology businesses during the pandemic, we can plainly see an alternative source of support critical for business growth: digital tools.

A third of female business owners say new technologies will be crucial to the success of their business in the future and one in five say it is the most important thing for business growth.

With new technology comes new ways to pay, create, and work. And yet there are barriers that prevent business owners accessing this technology. Women are significantly more likely to say they want to use more digital tools but don’t know what is best for their business and also more concerned about the security of digital tools.

When technology is adopted by businesses – whether using online accounting solutions or messenger services for communicating with staff – it saves them time, allows them to maintain and grow their customer base, and ultimately increases cost savings and profit.

By drastically improving the training and support that is available to women-owned business to access and utilise technology we will allow these businesses to grow and succeed. And we know there is demand for it.

Research done by the IFC and Dalberg shows that female entrepreneurs are more likely to invest time and money in business development. This includes product development, customer base expansion, and digital tools and training and there are plenty of services available offering this type of support – many of them for free.

One such programme is Strive UK – an initiative of the Mastercard Center for Inclusive Growth – which aims to reach 650,000 micro and small business owners across the UK and empower them with the tools they need to thrive in the digital economy through free guidance, helpful tools and one-to-one mentoring.

Working together with small business experts – Enterprise Nation, Be the Business and Digital Boost – we hope to ensure hundreds of thousands of UK female business owners have the tools they need to succeed and reach their ambitious goals. Because this ambition remains strong in the UK, with female business owners largely optimistic about the future despite the multitude of challenges they are facing. Four in ten say they will grow their business in the next five years – compared to only a third of male business owners – and they’re also 35% less likely than men to say they plan to downsize or close the business.

But if we do not empower female entrepreneurs to access the tools and technology they need to grow, there is a risk this optimism could be misplaced. Support programmes that provide business owners with guidance and mentorship can help ensure this isn’t the case, allowing female entrepreneurs to not only survive but thrive in the months and years ahead.